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Hello and welcome to RTalk, the place
where we agree to disagree, if we disagree that is.
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And today's guest comes from Argentina,
it's Carlos Sanchez. Our topic is:
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"Some things I can change".
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Hello Carlos, welcome to RTalk.
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All right, thank you.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank you for this invitation, René.
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It's early morning in Argentina.
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It's an area in the
world I have never visited.
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So I'm very pleased that my tentacles
with RTalks are reaching the far corners of this globe.
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Just to introduce you a little bit to my
viewers, though I don't have much to say in terms
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of biography, Carlos' biography will as usual
be in the description of the video and I will
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ask in a few pointed questions.
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But just so that you, dear viewers, have a
feeling of how I got to know Carlos, how we got to know each other.
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There was an international global, a Reiki
working group which, and this is in the time before
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the pandemics where we met once
a month in an online conference.
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And I had the honor to be a member of this
group of people and Carlos was a member of that group.
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He has been a long time associate of the Reiki Alliance and of course,
of Phyllis Lei Furumote, God bless her, rest in peace.
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This is how we got to know each other,
right, Carlos?
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Yes, yes.
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That was through an invitation that Phyllis
made to some of us Reiki practitioners to speak
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about her succession.
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It was a group that we worked hard and it
was a good training before the pandemic to,
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at least for me, to be familiar
with working in a virtual way.
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And also using this, as you said at the beginning
of this, using this virtual possibilities that
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we have now, the internet and how easy it
became to be in contact, to record, to see each
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other and to have good conversations.
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Yes. And then we got to talk to each other for
the first time, one on one online, only I think
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two weeks ago or so, when you agreed to a
preliminary conversation about the possibility
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of this conversation today.
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Let me ask you a few quick, rapid questions
and you just give me a brief answer so to get
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to know you a little bit.
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Your nationality is ... Carlos?
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I am an Argentinian
that has double nationality also an Italian citizen.
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Oh, so we're almost compatriots.
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Almost.
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Yeah, I read that actually a lot of the Argentinian
population today, it's roots are more in Italian
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people than in Spanish people I believe.
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Probably. Yeah, probably.
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Argentina had a lot of
immigration at some point in history.
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And so I also have roots from
Spanish roots, Danish roots.
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Let me continue with my rapid questions.
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How old are you?
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I am 63 today.
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Today?
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Yeah, I mean, soon I will be 64.
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Okay, all right,
so it's not your birthday today.
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Do you have children?
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I do have four children.
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They are grown ups.
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I do have a grandchildren too.
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Congratulations.
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Mine is visiting me in two weeks' time.
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He's living in Germany, so it's
a blessing to have a grandchildren.
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You met Reiki the
first time, when was that?
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It was in 1992.
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Through a German master, I was initiated
in first degree in Buenos Aires city.
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By a German master that used to travel
to Buenos Aires and meet the German community there.
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Oh, okay.
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And you became a Reiki teacher when?
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In 1995.
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Same Reiki master.
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I traveled to Germany to
be initiated as a master.
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Oh, okay.
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And since then you have been teaching Reiki 1
and 2, and presumably you've also trained teachers yourself?
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I did.
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Not that much.
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I waited for many years until I
felt it was time for me to do that.
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Yeah, I do that.
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I'm interested in this process just as a
matter of curiosity before we get on our topic.
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So you waited and you were waiting for a
sense that you were mature enough to train other
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masters or ... ? Describe that a little bit. What were you waiting for?
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I love the question!
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I was waiting because
I felt that I had to wait.
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When I, as you said,
I was a member of the Reiki Alliance.
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At the time I met the Reiki Alliance,
there were a lot of changes about how long you
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have been a Reiki master before you
were able to initiate a Reiki master.
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It was changing at that time.
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At the very beginning, it was not that clear
that we needed some time to mature in our own
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mastership ... to be on our path of master,
to pass on what we received.
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I always do something that is very simple,
but I said, I love cooking.
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And I said, if I pass on to you the recipe
of a cake that I just saw on TV, it's one thing.
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But if I pass on to you the recipe of the
cake that I've been cooking for some years,
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I have some ... It's a different way
that I'm going to talk about this cake.
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And this recipe will be the same.
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So I waited until just saying, okay, I
will wait for some years, 10 years at least.
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Then it was clear to me that it was
okay, and I also took time to train my students
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and for them to practice enough
time before being Reiki masters.
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But if I understand you correctly, there was
a defining moment where you've sensed by yourself,
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you came to the inside, now I have come
to the point where I have reached a level of
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maturity which allows me
now to train other teachers.
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Was that a purely internal decision for
you or was that ... did you speak to your master about it?
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How was that for you?
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Everything. All together. At that time
I talked to Phyllis Furumoto about that.
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And I already made some training with her
in training masters and preparation of masters.
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And when I did it, I really felt that,
yeah, I had a clear picture of what was next.
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Also thinking what will help Reiki
in terms of more people teaching Reiki and
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what will help Reiki as a movement to
stay in the world, to remain in the world and
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to be practiced as we do and for
the good of the people in the world.
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Yeah, it's a very interesting
and fascinating process.
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And I don't think that there can be a
recipe or a law dictating and deciding that.
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And what fascinates me very often is that ...
my observation is that Reiki teaches sometimes
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tend to procrastinate the
decision to train others out of security.
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But of course, on the surface,
it's very noble sounding arguments.
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So I'm not mature.
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I need to be more spiritual or whatever
their arguments are, which are fine.
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It's nothing wrong with aspiring
for unfolding of spirituality.
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And conversely, we have just recently, my
wife and I experienced where we have had a master
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in training and she has - consciously or
subconsciously - postponed the graduation date because she
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realizes that the moment she's graduated
as a Reiki master, to some degree she's on her own.
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There is a level of autonomy, right?
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So I can see you know this process.
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Right. I know this.
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We have a thing in Argentina
as we have a lot of Italian roots.
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When you cook Gnocchi, some of
them pop up very, very, very fast.
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It doesn't mean that they are all ready.
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And sometimes for us, we have
some bubbles or some Gnocchi
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we think that we are
ready and we are not also.
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You know, we need
to feel that we are,
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whatever it means for each one of us,
but also being aware for me that somethings
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take time to mature in ourselves and that
we sometimes can't foresee what time will bring to us.
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So I think that we need to wait for a while
and somehow assimilate our experience. And this
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time may mean some years.
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Yes, I quite agree with you.
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I like the idea of comparing the maturity
of a Reiki teacher with the emergence of
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Gnocchi at the surface of
the boiling water. Excellent!
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And in a way, of course, we are exactly
on our topic. Our topic today: "Some things I can change".
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And when we had our preliminary discussion,
we were going through a number of possible
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topics and we ended on that one.
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And actually, we started off with saying
"some things I cannot change" and then we said ...
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So and of course, this is, if I may just
pop this up, this is obviously reminding us of
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the serenity prayer, God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change, the courage
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to change the things I can and the
wisdom to know the difference.
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Gant me patients with changes that take
time, appreciation for all that I have, tolerance
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of others with different struggles and
the strength to get up and try again one day at the time.
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I find this a very beautiful prayer
because it's free of dogmatism of a church.
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Okay, it addresses the concept of God,
but I think that even an agnostic person could
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substitute it with consciousness or
a description more palatable to them.
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And I actually have found recently
politicians in Germany quoting from this prayer.
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So our topic 'Some things I can change'
is directly relating to that prayer.
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I don't think we realized that when ... Did
you realize that Carlos, when you and I spoke?
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No, but when I was talking to a friend
about this invitation and the ... I appreciate by
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the way, thank you for the conversation,
for the preliminary conversation that was so rich in content.
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So I talked to a friend about this, our
conversation and how we ended up with this topic and he
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just said this prayer.
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So it was the timely manner that you also
found it or that's the energy we are in, what
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kind of, what can we change,
what we can't change.
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Exactly.
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And actually one of the rapid questions
I omitted to ask, I forgot, was what are your other professions?
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Yeah, as a profession.
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I work with Bach-Flowers, the remedies that were created by
a doctor back in Wales some 100 years ago.
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I started with these
before finding Reiki.
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So I have kept these as an
offer to some people, to clients.
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And I also am a farmer as a profession.
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And this also has been something that
I had to match with my Reiki practice.
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As it is so flat ... Even if I live
in a flat county or in a flat area of this country,
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I had to go with the cycles and
the seasons and the times of working with both
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being a farmer and my Reiki practice.
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And sometimes I can interact both of them,
sometimes I can't.
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They are separate things or they seem to be
separate worlds, different worlds, but not in myself.
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So, yes, a farmer.
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I was ... I didn't realize that when we spoke
10 days ago and I was, I would have never expected it.
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That's great.
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You told me also about the changes or
rather how farming and your other profession,
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the farming profession is confronting you
with the flexibility which is being expressed
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in that very prayer that you have to adopt
to change of the change of nature and so on.
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And I know that socially you
are also a very committed person.
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You're supporting and helping your communities,
not only within the Reiki community or the
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farming community, but you're an active
citizen with ... You know, we had an RTalk some
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time ago about the responsibilities
we citizens have, civil responsibilities.
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I think from the sense I get that
you're quite actively involved there too.
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So would you, Carlos, please talk a little bit
about the fluidity of change and the flexibility
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in whatever field, whether that is farming
or whether it is social engagement or anything else.
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Particularly I'm interested in the
fluidity, the flexibility versus the needs to still
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be honest to one's own commitments, to
one's own values, to one's own integrity because
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that's sometimes a bit
of a challenge, isn't it?
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It is, it is, I agree.
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Yes, I'm committed with an organization
that searches for the grandchildren.
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It's an organization
founded by grandmothers.
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And it's called Grandmothers of Plaza
de Mayo, Abuelas de Plaza de Mayo. (See Notes)
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It's well known all over the world during
the years of the Dictadura here, the military
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government, very violent government.
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They stole a lot of children - and
the grandmothers - babies, actually.
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Some of them were born in - that's a
word 'clandestine'? - hidden concentration camps
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that they had and they stole the children.
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So the grandmothers
started searching for them.
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Yeah, some years ... And for me it was something like,
what are we going to do with all this pain in this country?
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How are we going to heal?
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Is just Reiki enough? Doing a
Reiki treatment is enough to myself or someone else, or
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should I go out and do
something more and be more active?
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I also have some other
hobbies at that time.
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And we were doing a film
for this organization.
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And the chair, the president of this organization
said, you know, I would like people to commit
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with our work and not only say, you are
doing very well, you are doing very well.
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And I felt myself, hmm, Carlos, this is for you!
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You need to do something.
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There is something you can give, there is
something you can give support and see what they need
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and go for it, what you have to give them.
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And yeah, well, it was a nice process and I've been there
for many years now, for 18 years working with them.
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And I am one of the activists, not
any main one, you know, we are several of us in
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this country, several that we created the
net to support this work and working with people
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that do not know where their origin is, you know, adopted,
helping them to contact this organization.
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So for me, that was a process of going out of myself,
going out of my Reiki world, let's call it, you know.
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And, you know, just go out and do what is needed.
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What is needed if you can,
if I can, if Carlos can.
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So I just, and this has been one of the
most rewarding things I have done in my life.
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And, yeah, and you know, every time we found one of these
grandchildren for us is a joy and a big celebration.
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These grandchildren are then
united with their original families?
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When they choose.
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If they choose, when they choose.
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If they chose, they are given the ... This is a ... There are
several steps in this process, but everything
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goes under legal terms.
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So it has to be proved.
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There is a bank of
genetic bank of the families.
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And then they have to go under test.
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They have to be under this ... Compatibility
should show that they are really from that family.
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The grandmothers of Plaza de Mayo, some years
ago, when all this process of genetic started,
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they read about ... I mean,
these are amazing women in the world.
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There are amazing women all over the world.
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There women for
this country are amazing.
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So they read about the genetic discoveries
that you can prove parenthood.
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So they went to the States to interview
those that were doing this research.
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And they asked if it would be possible to
prove that you are the grandparents of someone.
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And they did this research
and they created this.
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And so they created what is
called the 'index of grandparenthood'.
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So you can prove through genetic studies who are
your grandma and your grandma. Who they are.
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So in this country, this has to be done and
has to be proved that they come from that family.
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So this goes until a
legal process where a judge
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calls them and tells them ... you know ... they are given
the opportunity to meet the family of origin.
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For some of them, it took them years.
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And some of them are really searching for that already ...
and they are already searching.
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And some of these grandchildren have
been found in Europe and in the States.
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Yes.
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So it's one piece that connects me with things that I can ... I cannot change
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these very cruel and violent past in this country.
0:25:26.490,0:25:32.490
But we can heal our
relationship as a society.
0:25:32.780,0:25:41.020
We can look for this and see what can
we do in there and really do something.
0:25:41.020,0:25:45.730
There is always something
that we can do in this regard.
0:25:46.040,0:25:46.580
Yeah.
0:25:46.580,0:25:52.620
This is why it's so nice that we
actually put our focus on the positive side.
0:25:52.620,0:25:54.500
I can change some things.
0:25:54.500,0:25:56.990
There are things I cannot change.
0:25:57.100,0:26:05.340
And the fact is that all of us sooner or
later, well, maybe not all, but most of us are
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going through changes in life.
0:26:07.540,0:26:11.060
And in those changes,
we are asking ourselves, who am I?
0:26:11.060,0:26:13.060
Where do I come from?
0:26:13.060,0:26:14.060
Who are my parents?
0:26:14.060,0:26:19.740
I mean, even children who grew up with
their biological parents know the phenomena that they
0:26:19.740,0:26:25.030
have gone through faces where they have doubted
whether they are actually in the right family.
0:26:25.540,0:26:29.120
It's a apparently a
psychological phenomenon.
0:26:29.510,0:26:32.180
But the point I'm driving
at - and as an adopted child
0:26:32.180,0:26:41.020
I know that very well - that most adopted
children, the very most adopted children sooner or
0:26:41.020,0:26:48.920
later would want to know who are my biological
parents, grandparents, where I'm coming from.
0:26:49.180,0:27:00.180
So this is a massive humanitarian engagement
to make sure that such children and of course,
0:27:00.180,0:27:05.620
the grandparents too, that they
have the possibility to be united.
0:27:06.820,0:27:14.170
You didn't point it out, but it
was implied when you said: "If the child wants!"
0:27:14.440,0:27:21.180
I believe that in Argentina there is
a law which says that if adopt children do
0:27:21.180,0:27:28.180
want to know, we - society - need to make
sure that they have a way of finding out.
0:27:28.180,0:27:29.430
Is that right?
0:27:30.180,0:27:37.050
Well, it's due to this whole process,
0:27:37.500,0:27:40.910
some laws were changed
about adoption and everything.
0:27:41.380,0:27:50.420
But what we call appropriation, which
is you do not say that you adopted a child.
0:27:50.420,0:27:56.210
You just find a doctor who is your
friend and say that you gave birth at home.
0:27:56.900,0:28:01.220
And so no one knows where
the children come from.
0:28:02.140,0:28:05.860
So that was the way that they
did with these children.
0:28:05.860,0:28:07.820
It was not adopted.
0:28:07.820,0:28:13.930
Well, somehow illegally appropriated.
0:28:14.430,0:28:21.100
And then ... the military
government did not create that.
0:28:21.680,0:28:24.160
It was being done already in Argentina.
0:28:25.100,0:28:31.640
For someone who did not want to say,
I need to adopt someone ...
0:28:32.260,0:28:34.540
So it's changing in Argentina.
0:28:34.540,0:28:42.850
Now, after that, everyone who
is adopted could trace the papers, let's say,
0:28:42.960,0:28:53.310
and go and find where he or
she was born, hospital, names, until some age.
0:28:53.780,0:29:00.870
But many of them came
from this hidden origin.
0:29:01.380,0:29:04.780
So now it's a very new thing.
0:29:04.780,0:29:07.390
And for me, it's like,
wow, are we going to do that?
0:29:07.510,0:29:17.900
Every, every - not only child - adult that was
adopted in Argentina could go to an office in the
0:29:17.900,0:29:22.470
government and say,
I want to know my roots.
0:29:23.260,0:29:31.220
And they will open a process for that for
everyone in the county, which is ... a world that
0:29:31.220,0:29:33.890
we just started in this organization.
0:29:34.340,0:29:43.780
And it will ... it's so big that we have no
idea what, how much it's going to take us.
0:29:43.780,0:29:49.570
But it's a, for me,
it's also looking into the future.
0:29:50.180,0:29:51.180
Yes.
0:29:51.180,0:29:58.540
So in that we go into the future
more than my own life, I think.
0:29:58.540,0:30:02.300
And we will create a different
kind of thinking about adoption.
0:30:02.860,0:30:08.780
For me, this is so important that we also need
to think differently about how we as a society
0:30:08.780,0:30:19.250
behave when we ... And we need to think about a
society that could take care of each individual.
0:30:20.480,0:30:22.300
Each member of the society.
0:30:22.300,0:30:29.140
And I think more about we as a community
that may be able to grow children when there is
0:30:29.140,0:30:31.510
someone who can't do it.
0:30:31.860,0:30:34.620
There will be another one
who may take care of that.
0:30:34.620,0:30:37.170
And I hope for this,
the change in our minds.
0:30:37.170,0:30:37.670
0:30:37.430,0:30:43.100
And also ... For me, this is
about the things that we can change.
0:30:43.100,0:30:49.180
If I cannot change, I may be able to see
at least these things, whatever needs to
0:30:49.180,0:30:58.730
be changed, and maybe find
someone who may do it or help me.
0:30:59.660,0:31:05.940
You know what you describe to me is
very much the spirit of reconciliation.
0:31:05.940,0:31:15.980
I mean, you're describing a reconciliation
taking place within families, within tribes.
0:31:15.980,0:31:21.400
And of course, at the end of the day reconciliation
is always something personal between people.
0:31:21.660,0:31:27.460
The best way - and probably at the end
of the day, the most important place to start
0:31:27.460,0:31:30.350
with is within the families.
0:31:30.660,0:31:36.040
There is hardly a family where there
isn't ground for reconciliation, one way or the other.
0:31:36.850,0:31:40.060
Yeah, and we need to see
this as a process, René.
0:31:40.060,0:31:43.940
I love that you bring this topic.
0:31:43.940,0:31:45.940
We need to see this as a process.
0:31:45.940,0:31:49.700
It's not the same as we are
done with reconciliation already.
0:31:49.700,0:31:51.180
Okay, it's already done.
0:31:51.180,0:31:54.500
Everything is fine from now on.
0:31:54.500,0:32:00.860
But if we, as you said when you were
speaking, in families and in society in general, you
0:32:00.860,0:32:04.580
know, this society needs
a lot of reconciliation.
0:32:04.600,0:32:05.290
Yes.
0:32:05.440,0:32:11.920
And I think what we are looking into now
is the world that has a lot of polarities,
0:32:12.020,0:32:13.510
white and black.
0:32:13.900,0:32:19.220
As I read the newspapers all over the
world, some of the newspapers, I see it as not
0:32:19.220,0:32:21.720
the phenomenon only in my country.
0:32:22.020,0:32:27.610
It's a phenomenon happening, you know,
that seems that there is a lot of polarity.
0:32:27.700,0:32:32.340
We came into this,
yes or no, white or black, these days.
0:32:32.700,0:32:34.420
And, you know, whatever.
0:32:34.420,0:32:44.820
But only two opposites, ways of thinking
or being, and there are so many places, by the
0:32:44.820,0:32:47.860
way, that we can work with reconciliation.
0:32:47.860,0:32:51.940
By the way, you have done a
beautiful work in the Reiki community.
0:32:51.940,0:32:57.300
That's another, you know, we did not
meet personally, but I met your work.
0:32:57.300,0:33:03.940
And actually, we met before and had some
talks before when I was interpreting, helping
0:33:03.940,0:33:12.260
you with the translation of a reconciliation video,
beautiful, that you made interviewing Phyllis Furumoto.
0:33:12.260,0:33:15.460
I love the lovely work you both did.
0:33:16.280,0:33:21.210
Thank you. And you're saying something extremely important
and I'd like to underline it,
0:33:21.260,0:33:23.780
that reconciliation is a process.
0:33:23.780,0:33:25.340
It continues.
0:33:26.510,0:33:31.190
As humans, we very often
would like things to have an end.
0:33:31.300,0:33:36.980
So something has gone wrong, we would like
to settle it and then carry on with life and
0:33:36.980,0:33:38.550
best to forget it.
0:33:38.740,0:33:40.940
And that's of course
a very dangerous thing.
0:33:40.940,0:33:47.260
And of course, reconciliation is not about
forgetting or about agreeing with the wrong,
0:33:47.260,0:33:48.460
which has been done.
0:33:48.460,0:33:50.920
It has nothing to do with that at all.
0:33:51.500,0:33:57.820
It has to do with liberating ourselves from
the burden of the past to go into the future.
0:33:57.820,0:34:06.300
As richer, as more wholesome, as wiser
human beings and make our contribution to prevent
0:34:06.300,0:34:10.080
that that which has gone
wrong of happening again.
0:34:10.140,0:34:17.380
And of course, have the ambition that
the mistakes we are bound to make, that we are
0:34:17.380,0:34:21.760
quicker and maybe more peaceful
in resolving those mistakes.
0:34:22.210,0:34:30.900
So that's a very important point you made,
that these processes ... I guess they are going
0:34:30.900,0:34:37.260
until we have a humanity which is
full of fully enlightened human beings.
0:34:37.260,0:34:43.610
But until such time, I think
it's a process which will continue.
0:34:44.700,0:34:55.730
I am very interested in doing the process.
This time seems to be very far away in the future.
0:34:55.960,0:35:08.730
But when we are already done, I think that
we can do a lot to make it a better world,
0:35:09.260,0:35:15.620
by working with reconciliation
processes and being more aware of that.
0:35:15.620,0:35:28.860
And then creating this ... I see the product
of reconciliation as a new thing that holds
0:35:28.860,0:35:36.300
all the past but also brings
something new into life.
0:35:36.580,0:35:37.570
Yeah.
0:35:38.710,0:35:49.100
I think that whether it's achievable soon
or far in the future or maybe never at all, I
0:35:49.100,0:35:51.540
think that's irrelevant.
0:35:51.540,0:35:52.740
We have no choice.
0:35:52.740,0:35:54.540
We are here now.
0:35:54.540,0:36:01.740
And we have actually an imperative, whether
the outcome is in a million years or in two
0:36:01.740,0:36:06.120
years ... we shouldn't be dictated by that.
0:36:06.700,0:36:14.980
And frankly, we have seen tremendous - if
I'm focusing on the positive, I'm not ignoring
0:36:14.980,0:36:15.980
the negative,
0:36:15.980,0:36:21.910
I know there is a war in the Ukraine - but
if we are looking at the positive in humanity,
0:36:22.490,0:36:30.140
there have been so many positive developments
which came so quickly where people have thought
0:36:30.140,0:36:36.710
this will never happen and then the
Berlin Wall was down or things have changed.
0:36:37.220,0:36:44.500
I have a short video clip, maybe towards
the end, it's a little bit light amusement,
0:36:44.500,0:36:48.330
but it's on the topic of change.
0:36:48.740,0:36:54.700
This is a little boy pretending
to be the president of the United States.
0:36:54.700,0:36:55.520
Have a look.
0:36:56.040,0:37:02.660
... it's by you, it's one person filled with
love and they just have to live it out.
0:37:02.660,0:37:04.180
So they do something awesome!
0:37:04.180,0:37:07.860
Then that person is filled with love
and they do something awesome.
0:37:07.860,0:37:10.980
This goes on and on and on and on.
0:37:10.980,0:37:13.810
And next thing you know, everything's awesome!
0:37:13.970,0:37:16.700
Some people think it's
impossible to change the world.
0:37:16.700,0:37:18.540
It's impossible to change the world.
0:37:18.540,0:37:25.180
Well, you can see why they could think that
living in the world with kids who are hungry,
0:37:25.180,0:37:28.120
people who are homeless, families aren't happy.
0:37:28.200,0:37:31.100
I'm just trying to figure it
out like everybody else, man.
0:37:31.170,0:37:32.380
I do know this though:
0:37:32.540,0:37:37.580
The next time you feel overwhelmed
or totally alone, remember this:
0:37:38.090,0:37:40.660
Things don't have to be the way they are.
0:37:40.660,0:37:43.020
The world is changed by ordinary people.
0:37:43.020,0:37:45.850
Little people living out big love.
0:37:45.850,0:37:49.760
That's what gives the
world a reason to dance.
0:37:57.820,0:37:59.820
Lovely. Thank you.
0:37:59.820,0:38:01.850
I have a story now.
0:38:02.110,0:38:02.880
Please!
0:38:02.880,0:38:05.470
A story from yesterday.
0:38:05.860,0:38:10.540
My grandson is 18 and he helped me.
0:38:10.540,0:38:15.620
He's one of my Reiki
students since he was a child.
0:38:15.620,0:38:18.740
So I have the oldest grandson.
0:38:18.740,0:38:21.460
We always had a relationship with them.
0:38:21.460,0:38:22.460
Very peculiar.
0:38:22.460,0:38:25.500
And he helps me in the farm.
0:38:25.500,0:38:29.580
And we were just doing some
electric fence yesterday.
0:38:29.580,0:38:32.860
And I walked in the farm,
you know, doing this.
0:38:32.860,0:38:36.980
And he was trying to create
a way to do it differently.
0:38:36.980,0:38:40.940
And I say, oh, please, go on, let's do it the way we do it.
0:38:40.940,0:38:48.900
He said, grandpa, the world did not
change because of the kind of thoughts that you are having.
0:38:49.100,0:38:53.780
You need to change the world
and give it a try to new things.
0:38:53.940,0:39:01.660
I love it because it was very real and
what you are sharing with this lovely video clip.
0:39:02.170,0:39:05.660
This could be applied
to everyday's life.
0:39:05.660,0:39:12.210
At least for me, you know, and this
is also our topic, what can we change?
0:39:12.820,0:39:17.680
You said, there are thing I can choose to change.
0:39:17.880,0:39:20.100
This for me is a very important thing.
0:39:20.100,0:39:24.950
I can choose to give it a try to change.
0:39:26.660,0:39:32.940
I think that this is one of
the key questions, the choice.
0:39:32.940,0:39:35.420
Like the little boy said, I can surrender
0:39:35.420,0:39:41.260
to, well, I can do
nothing and the world is bad
0:39:41.260,0:39:45.420
and I'm a victim and there's
nothing I can contribute.
0:39:45.420,0:39:49.420
Or I can say, oh, yeah,
there is something I can do right now.
0:39:49.420,0:39:53.620
I can do something in the conversation
with Carlos at this very moment.
0:39:53.620,0:39:55.620
I can make ... I can open my heart,
0:39:55.620,0:39:58.020
I can be fully here,
0:39:58.020,0:40:00.300
I can be fully committed.
0:40:00.300,0:40:06.060
That's a choice I have and the
contribution I make in this very, very moment.
0:40:06.060,0:40:06.620
Right.
0:40:07.190,0:40:14.040
And I think what you just said, to be conscious
of that we have a choice, that's I think the crux.
0:40:16.760,0:40:19.550
Carlos, we're coming to an end.
0:40:19.900,0:40:27.640
I would like to ask you,
what's the changes you can see ...
0:40:27.980,0:40:35.720
maybe big or very small, maybe just
today or maybe for the next 20 years in your life.
0:40:36.120,0:40:39.800
Both you and I are in
the second half of our lives.
0:40:39.800,0:40:49.860
So I think it's very important that men like
us and women, of course, and anyone is having
0:40:49.860,0:40:58.150
a dream of what the purpose of all of this
is for the remaining time we have on this planet.
0:40:58.220,0:41:06.570
So what's your changes
you have in the offer?
0:41:07.400,0:41:18.720
The truth is that I can't foresee that. If
I look back into my last 15 years or 20, I wasn't
0:41:20.900,0:41:28.390
able to think about the
future in the way it was.
0:41:28.480,0:41:34.170
What I would like to think about the
future is that I do not betray myself.
0:41:34.320,0:41:36.790
I do not betray who I am.
0:41:36.940,0:41:47.690
I am able to be myself and hold my values
and help the world
0:41:47.980,0:41:53.720
whatever way it was, whatever way it's needed.
0:41:56.970,0:42:06.140
So this integrity with your own values and
that's I think also the privilege, hopefully,
0:42:06.140,0:42:15.460
for people of our age that we have had a
rich life coming to understand what our values are
0:42:16.550,0:42:22.380
and now it's tie to stay true to them and
stick up for them and speak them out.
0:42:22.850,0:42:23.810
Right.
0:42:25.750,0:42:27.420
Excellent.
0:42:27.420,0:42:31.380
Should we close it here or do
you have some final beautiful wisdom?
0:42:31.740,0:42:36.610
My final beautiful wisdom
is to say thank you very much.
0:42:38.220,0:42:42.940
Thank you very much, René, for sharing
and thank you very much for those who are viewing this
0:42:43.170,0:42:47.930
this and take their time to
get to know me a little bit.
0:42:48.700,0:42:55.820
Thank you, Carlos, for the time you invested
and I'm saying goodbye to Carlos at this point.
0:42:57.190,0:43:02.140
Thank you dear viewers, we talk
with each other in three weeks time.
0:43:02.300,0:43:09.530
Well I'm not sure, because this may be
the last RTalk before the summer of 2023.
0:43:09.770,0:43:14.600
We'll have to see because then there
will be a break, how we will continue.
0:43:15.100,0:43:16.570
So all the best.
